"It sounds like you're getting rainout issues (condensation) so here's an article to help with this.
www.hope2sleep.co.uk/water-in-the-mask-hose-known-as-rainout"
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Problems with rainout in my mask
Hi,
My name is Carlos and i have been diagnosed with sleep apnoea quite recently.
I have been using a Breas iSleep 20 with heated humidifier HA20 and nasal mask for 5 weeks; and i feel the difference, i sleep much better than before.
But i have problems with rainout in my mask Fisher&Paykel ZestQ.
I have the CPAP placed lower than my bed.
The level of humidity set is 2, enough to avoid problems with my throat.
I have ordered a hose tube cover (waiting to receive it)
I know that the temperature in my room is quite low (aroun 16 ªC), but i can't sleep with the heating on at home, i don't like it.
Any advice to try to avoid this problem?
Thanks for your help and this forum. Very useful for new CPAP users like me.
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Permalink Reply by Kath Hope on
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Hi Carlos and welcome to our forum. You've done the correct thing in ordering the hose cover which is on its way to you from our UK charity. Just occasionally, customs at your end in Spain tend to slow down packages arriving, so I hope that doesn't happen in your case and it arrives soon. Whilst you're waiting for the hose cover to arrive, see if you have some kind of fabric that you could wrap around the tube....perhaps a strip of old towelling or anything fleece/insulating would be better. Also try to elevate your hose. In fact I personally came across the Hose Lift after having a holiday in Spain and discovering there was no headboard on the bed which I could wrap my hose around
Here's a link to the Hose Lift on the website http://www.hope2sleep.co.uk/cpap-hose-lift.html By elevating the hose, any 'rainout' that collect in the hose should, in theory, drip back down into the humidifier rather than the mask.Also check out the webpage for a full list of problems that can occur with CPAP http://www.hope2sleep.co.uk/desensitisation-tips-for-new-cpap-and-v...
It's good that you're already feeling the difference from your CPAP therapy, and these minor problems can usually be solved easily with good tips or comfort products.
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Permalink Reply by Txarly on
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Thanks for your kind welcome and reply, Kath.
I'll wait for the hose cover and, after testing it, i will check if the Hose Lift is necessary.Thanks!!!
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You're very welcome Carlos, and if you need a hose lift as well I'll bring it in person, as I could do with a break in the sun
Txarly said:Thanks for your kind welcome and reply, Kath.
I'll wait for the hose cover and, after testing it, i will check if the Hose Lift is necessary.Thanks!!!
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hahahahaha
i'm afraid i live at north side of Spain, so, the weather is quite similar to the one in UK :(
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Aw Nooooo! Perhaps I'll post it then after all, ha ha
Txarly said:hahahahaha
i'm afraid i live at north side of Spain, so, the weather is quite similar to the one in UK :(
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Permalink Reply by Sleep2snore on
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In theory any condensation should run back into the humidifier if it is lower than you are.
What you can do to help is try to run the hose in such a way as most of it is under the duvet, this should help a little.
Don't use the machine on the floor though.
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Thanks for the comment.
I try to do what you say, but during the night i move and the hose goes out from under the duvet.
I have the machine lower than my bed, but not directly on the floor.
Sleep2snore said:In theory any condensation should run back into the humidifier if it is lower than you are.
What you can do to help is try to run the hose in such a way as most of it is under the duvet, this should help a little.
Don't use the machine on the floor though.
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I have just received the hose cover.
I'll place it tonight.
Thanks
Kath Hope said:Hi Carlos and welcome to our forum. You've done the correct thing in ordering the hose cover which is on its way to you from our UK charity. Just occasionally, customs at your end in Spain tend to slow down packages arriving, so I hope that doesn't happen in your case and it arrives soon. Whilst you're waiting for the hose cover to arrive, see if you have some kind of fabric that you could wrap around the tube....perhaps a strip of old towelling or anything fleece/insulating would be better. Also try to elevate your hose. In fact I personally came across the Hose Lift after having a holiday in Spain and discovering there was no headboard on the bed which I could wrap my hose around
Here's a link to the Hose Lift on the website http://www.hope2sleep.co.uk/cpap-hose-lift.html By elevating the hose, any 'rainout' that collect in the hose should, in theory, drip back down into the humidifier rather than the mask.Also check out the webpage for a full list of problems that can occur with CPAP http://www.hope2sleep.co.uk/desensitisation-tips-for-new-cpap-and-v...
It's good that you're already feeling the difference from your CPAP therapy, and these minor problems can usually be solved easily with good tips or comfort products.
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Great to hear the hose cover didn't take too long to arrive with you in Spain, and good luck tonight Txarly.
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I have used it tonight, and i have had a bit of rainout.
But, i increased the humidity level to 4.
Tonight, i will try setting the humidity level to 3.But the amount of rainout haven't been high, just a bit.
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That's good to hear the problem was improved Txarly, but I would now try to get your hose elevated because you may find you won't need to reduce the humidity if you can position it this way.
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Curing Rain-out in the hose/tubing is one thing, but I remember I had condensation in the mask itself but nothing to speak of in the hose. This must be due to moisture from breathing out and condensing on the inside of the mask. It would slowly build up, first just as a bit of condensation like steam, but it would slowly build up (The air passing through the mask would take some of it away every time between breaths and when breathing in) until the water droplets grew in size and eventually would run down inside the mask. This would collect and be very annoying. Causing problems and waking me up, either some of these droplets would become air-born and land on the face or if I had turned in my sleep and was now lying on my back would just drop of the surface onto my face. Either that or it would run down and and around the mouth area, this was the nasty as sometimes I would breath and some of the droplets would enter the mouth and I would breath them in causing me to choke and have a panic attack as I would wake up choking and trying to remove the mask in a hurry. This was worst with a Full-faced mask as it had a bigger surface area. I tried to turn down the humidity and had it so low it was not high enough for me, the result is I woke up so dry I couldn't breathe.
I was not getting the problem in the hose/tubing, it was the mask only. I did try using a fleece cut into strips to insulate the hose/tubing but this if anything made things worse. I did not have this problem all the time, strangely it was in the summer I had most of the problems!
I was just wondering if anyone else had this problem?
Did anyone find a solution to it?
Sorry, I don't want to Hijack this thread.
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