SHOULD CPAP BE USED FOR DAYTIME NAPS?

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Permalink Reply by Tigers Fan on May 18, 2011 at 7:08

Simple tests:

 

Try an afternoon nap with and then without getting under some covers.

 

Try afternoon nap with and without PAP.

 

Score out of ten the way you feel after each zizz. If you are like me, the best sleep comes from with PAP, under the covers, by a very long way.

 

I shall be doing thnis for a few days after I finally see the backs of the builders with their maybe 07.30 starts.

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Permalink Reply by james brown on May 18, 2011 at 22:09

when not working i all way have an afternoon nap and i almost every time wear my cpap but i all way wake up with a headache don't know why but i do.

 

james 

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Permalink Reply by Caveman on May 18, 2011 at 22:27

I recently bought a cms50f oximeter, review coming soon - and one of the first tests I did was for afternoon napping.

I'll say in my defence that the reason I sometimes nap in the afternoons is not because I'm sleeping badly but because I tend to work later than I should because it's quiet with less distractions (I design security systems).

The results of the test? - LOTS of apnoea events, so the answer is definitely YES, always use your cpap as Kath says.

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Permalink Reply by Kath Hope on May 18, 2011 at 22:32

Wow, thanks for this evidence Caveman.  Why I never thought to test it myself with the oximeter is beyond me LOL.  Look forward to your review when you get chance....

Caveman said:

I recently bought a cms50f oximeter, review coming soon - and one of the first tests I did was for afternoon napping.

I'll say in my defence that the reason I sometimes nap in the afternoons is not because I'm sleeping badly but because I tend to work later than I should because it's quiet with less distractions (I design security systems).

The results of the test? - LOTS of apnoea events, so the answer is definitely YES, always use your cpap as Kath says.

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Permalink Reply by Joe barnes on May 19, 2011 at 9:32

I read somewhere that if you are sitting up (in a chair) as apposed to laying flat (in a bed) and head is near your chin (as in a nap) as apposed to being in a straight line (sleeping in bed) the the chance of an o.s.a. is far less.

Anybody have any thoughts on this?

 

Joe

 

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Permalink Reply by Joe barnes on May 19, 2011 at 9:38

I do not know if this as to do with o.s.a. but when I sleep in bed with or without a/pap I wake up groggy but more a less o.k

When I have a nap in the chair when I wake I feel like it is the middle of the night muzzy headed and feel quite ill.

Sometimes it will clear after afew hours but most times it does not clear till I have a full nights sleep.

Around Teatime I cannot stop yawning and really have to fight it to stay awake and then after an hour or so I get over it.

I know if I give in I will feel ill for the rest of the day/evening.

 

Joe

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Permalink Reply by Caveman on May 19, 2011 at 13:04

I'm probably saying the wrong thing but sounds to me a lot like your machine is not doing it's job, maybe you are still having apnoea events even when wearing it - you should get checked or get yourself an oximeter, the CMS50F is the one I went for and picked one up off ebay for 99 Australian dollars, about £65 uk pounds. It's revealed a lot about my apnoea, especially that I can't even nap without having events.

 

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Permalink Reply by Joe barnes on May 19, 2011 at 19:59

Thanks caveman.

Papworth have my card readouts from the a/pap and I have the software to do this and it looks like it is doing it's job.

I did think about getting an Oximeter but the reports I read said they are not that accurate and I do no know if It will benefit me anymore than the software readouts.

 

Joe

Caveman said:

I'm probably saying the wrong thing but sounds to me a lot like your machine is not doing it's job, maybe you are still having apnoea events even when wearing it - you should get checked or get yourself an oximeter, the CMS50F is the one I went for and picked one up off ebay for 99 Australian dollars, about £65 uk pounds. It's revealed a lot about my apnoea, especially that I can't even nap without having events.

 

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Permalink Reply by Kath Hope on May 19, 2011 at 21:19

What are your results from your machine Joe, as in what's the AHI?  I'm sure that eventually machines will have built-in oximeters, and I'll be first in line for one!

Joe barnes said:

Thanks caveman.

Papworth have my card readouts from the a/pap and I have the software to do this and it looks like it is doing it's job.

I did think about getting an Oximeter but the reports I read said they are not that accurate and I do no know if It will benefit me anymore than the software readouts.

 

Joe

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Permalink Reply by Caveman on May 19, 2011 at 22:56

 

 

Joe - you may well be right about the accuracy of these cheap meters (CMS50F) but on May 5th I attended the sleep clinic for my regular (every 2 years whether I need it or not) appointment and took my meter with me - the clinician couldn't resist a challenge and we compared the readings between my meter and her posh NHS approved one - and they were the same.

 

Having said all that, all I really want from my meter is to see the difference between a near-flat SpO2 line with CPAP and the cross-section of the alps that I get without it - so accuracy is just not an issue, the difference is huge and obvious.

 

I don't know your circumstances but mine aren't good - made redundant, scraping cash together so even £65 was a big outlay - but I can definitely say it has taught me much about my apnoea 'habits', has enabled me to reduce pressure from 14 to 10 which is much more comfortable, and convinced me to persist with CPAP even if it's waking me up with discomfort during the night - so it was money well spent!

 

Apologies for drifting a little off topic but I hope it's relevant.

 

Peter

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Permalink Reply by Kath Hope on May 19, 2011 at 23:07

2 YEAR Appointment?!  Crikey.  In our area we go every year, but most of us end up there before this for a new mask.  Great to hear how well you're getting on with your oximeter though Caveman, and looking forward to that post of yours about it :)

Caveman said:

 

 

Joe - you may well be right about the accuracy of these cheap meters (CMS50F) but on May 5th I attended the sleep clinic for my regular (every 2 years whether I need it or not) appointment and took my meter with me - the clinician couldn't resist a challenge and we compared the readings between my meter and her posh NHS approved one - and they were the same.

 

Having said all that, all I really want from my meter is to see the difference between a near-flat SpO2 line with CPAP and the cross-section of the alps that I get without it - so accuracy is just not an issue, the difference is huge and obvious.

 

I don't know your circumstances but mine aren't good - made redundant, scraping cash together so even £65 was a big outlay - but I can definitely say it has taught me much about my apnoea 'habits', has enabled me to reduce pressure from 14 to 10 which is much more comfortable, and convinced me to persist with CPAP even if it's waking me up with discomfort during the night - so it was money well spent!

 

Apologies for drifting a little off topic but I hope it's relevant.

 

Peter

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Permalink Reply by diane lester on May 20, 2011 at 9:47

i always use my machine at night but with a daytime nap i'm usually just sitting up in the armchair so done bother,  i usually dont sleep for more than 10 - 15 minutes.

if i go for a lie down upstairs only if i'm not well i would switch it on as i dont breath very well laying down anyway..  if i went upstairs to sleep in the day i'd sleep for too long.

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