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Could schizophrenia be a sleep disorder?

Schizophrenia is among the most damaging and least understood of all mental disorders. Now a seemingly minor symptom — the fact that many schizophrenia patients complain of sleeping problems — could actually provide a crucial key to unraveling the disease.

At first glance, trouble sleeping might not seem like that big a deal, the sort of thing that is easily explained away by the difficulties of coping with this disease, or perhaps the result of various medications. And yet Oxford researcher Russell Wilson and his team recently published results that show these sleep problems exist regardless of any of these external lifestyle factors — suggesting a potentially much deeper link between schizophrenia and the brain's sleep centers.

As New Scientist reports, the researchers tested this idea by studying mice with defects in their SNAP25 gene, which is linked to schizophrenia in humans. They placed the mice in an environment where twelve hours of light was followed by twelve hours of darkness. While the mice with normally functioning SNAP25 genes were active during the artificial daytime, the altered mice were the exact opposite. Something was deeply wrong with their circadian rhythms.

That in turn suggested a problem with their suprachiasmatic nucleus, a piece of brain tissue that gathers information on surrounding light levels so that the rest of the body knows when to be active and when to effectively power down. The researchers discovered the relay links between the SCN and the rest of the body were damaged in the altered mice, and this had caused the internal clocks throughout the rest of the mice's bodies to get wildly out of sync with the brain.

Speaking to New Scientist, Foster explains how deeply this affects the body's biology:

"There is a defect in the way that the master clock in the SCN is talking to peripheral clocks. It's rather like jet lag. All of the biology is in different phases. Once you disrupt sleep you precipitate a raft of additional problems that make things worse and further destabilise the neurotransmitter systems of the body."

While this doesn't mean the body's malfunctioning internal clocks actually cause schizophrenia, these experiments suggest that they could well be a vital piece of the puzzle in explaining what causes the disease. This link is strengthened by the fact that many other diseases linked to disrupted sleep patterns, such as cardiovascular disease and obesity, are also common in schizophrenia patients.

Current Biology via New Scientist. Image by Kim D. French, via Shutterstock.

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You're right Rock, this is very interesting.  In fact it would be good if one day all people with mental/emotional problems were tested for sleep disorders.  I've been speaking with a friend today who works with children with special needs, and she said loads of them are now being tested for sleep apnoea with great improvements to their conditions.  We have a long way to go, but this is all positive.  Thanks for sharing.

I think this is huge. Also explains why sleeptechs are so feisty. ;)

Very interesting research. Thank you for sharing it with us. I have a very good friend who suffers from this disorder and I've often thought sleep disturbance played some part.

 About 8 years before I was diagnosed with sleep apnoea, I had ME or CFS. and I had most of the mental and physical symptoms associated with it.

Extreme fatigue - vacuuming a floor or making a bed took forever because I would have to keep sitting down to rest, often had to lie down because I felt giddy. Would sometimes have to go to bed with woolly jumpers and hat on because my teeth were chattering I was so cold, other times I'd be sweating. Very tired most of the time, but usually mind racing and unable to sleep. Would mix up words in writing and speech and lots of memory problems. Concentration absolutely shot to pieces. Gradually over time- several years- and with the help of yoga I got back to normal - well normal for me.

Some years after this and after my sleep apnea diagnosis, I started having problems with an underactive thyroid. Reading up on thyroid problems I was amazed at the range of symptoms that a malfunctioning thyroid could be responsible for. Amongst them tinnitus and hearing voices.

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