"Hi. No first hand experience, but you can see reviews here, which are mixed: https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed-airfit-f40-full-face-cpap-mask
I notice cpap.com still appear to be selling the Quattro FX. I have imported stuff from…"
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Many thanks for your reply. I am using a nasal pillow mask.
RockRpsgt said:It is ppssible that your turbinites are causing problems. Very little if any though. This would be more of an issue with your daytime breathing in my opinion. What mask are you using?
The machines and different softwares read leaks a little diffrently. The manufactures requirements are even more stringent than my own. As a rule of thumb a leak value that is less than 4x the pressure value is acceptable to me. If your pressure is 10cmwp than you would not want your leak any higher than 40 if possible. I do give a little more freedom with Full Face masks as they tend to be leak monsters. Sometime you have to comprimise with a little leak to get a small amount of additional comfort. More importantly to watch is what your AHI is doing at different leak values on the same pressure setting.
snoreyhead said:Two questions if I may?
1) I am awaiting an operation to have by turbinates, reduced is this likely to be the cause of my hypopneas being higher than my restrictive and central sleep apneas? I suffer with one blocked nostril on 98% of nights.
2) As a mask is designed to have some leakage for the purpose of exhaling when breathing what is the leak level that is acceptable?
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Using a nasal mask with nasal problems has to be tough. I would imagine that a turbinite reduction would help in your case. Have you considered a full face mask until after the surgery?
snoreyhead said:Many thanks for your reply. I am using a nasal pillow mask.
RockRpsgt said:It is ppssible that your turbinites are causing problems. Very little if any though. This would be more of an issue with your daytime breathing in my opinion. What mask are you using?
The machines and different softwares read leaks a little diffrently. The manufactures requirements are even more stringent than my own. As a rule of thumb a leak value that is less than 4x the pressure value is acceptable to me. If your pressure is 10cmwp than you would not want your leak any higher than 40 if possible. I do give a little more freedom with Full Face masks as they tend to be leak monsters. Sometime you have to comprimise with a little leak to get a small amount of additional comfort. More importantly to watch is what your AHI is doing at different leak values on the same pressure setting.
snoreyhead said:Two questions if I may?
1) I am awaiting an operation to have by turbinates, reduced is this likely to be the cause of my hypopneas being higher than my restrictive and central sleep apneas? I suffer with one blocked nostril on 98% of nights.
2) As a mask is designed to have some leakage for the purpose of exhaling when breathing what is the leak level that is acceptable?
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Yes I have a full Respironics mask, but find the leakage and AHI increases when I use it. I don't understand the reason behind this unless its the level of leakage that renders the mask infective.
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So pleased to report (for those that were watching how she got on) that June got instant relief from her bad allergy with the bacterial filters. She's posted her own reply on The Other Discussion
Kath Hope said:
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A high leak will lead to an increased in AHI. I find the Respironic FFM to be the 2nd worse of all of these types of mask. Have yoou tried any of the Resmed full masks?
snoreyhead said:Yes I have a full Respironics mask, but find the leakage and AHI increases when I use it. I don't understand the reason behind this unless its the level of leakage that renders the mask infective.
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I tried at least 10 masks until I found the 'Respironics' FitLife, which surprisingly gives me the least leaks of any full face ones. I think it's down to finding the 'right mask for the person' regardless of who the manufacturer is, which is why I think it would be good if the sleep clinics stocked ALL the manufacturers masks - in an ideal world of course, sigh....
RockRpsgt said:A high leak will lead to an increased in AHI. I find the Respironic FFM to be the 2nd worse of all of these types of mask. Have yoou tried any of the Resmed full masks?
snoreyhead said:Yes I have a full Respironics mask, but find the leakage and AHI increases when I use it. I don't understand the reason behind this unless its the level of leakage that renders the mask infective.
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I find when I use a full face the leak and ahi are worse unless I up the pressure a little (mine is set at 8min 18 max with a swift FX or Sleepweaver, I up it to 10 or 12 min if I'm needing to use the full face mask and the Quattro FX seals much better at the higher pressure).
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We have found that a FFM requires about 2cm more pressure to do the same job of a nasal mask.
symmit said:I find when I use a full face the leak and ahi are worse unless I up the pressure a little (mine is set at 8min 18 max with a swift FX or Sleepweaver, I up it to 10 or 12 min if I'm needing to use the full face mask and the Quattro FX seals much better at the higher pressure).
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Quick question about leak rate. My machine reports about 25l per minute which I am assuming is a total flow rate as I haven't got a mask programmed in, I tried a sleepweaver élan last night and it reported 15lpm, which seems quite low. Is the lower venting rate a problem and could it result in more effort being required or actually insufficient flow to supply air and vent co2?
Pressure is set at 8 to 18 and machine is an icon auto.
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The masks are made to allow for proper venting of Co2. They could not be on the market in either of our countries if they were not. What pressure are you on? Resmed machine?
symmit said:Quick question about leak rate. My machine reports about 25l per minute which I am assuming is a total flow rate as I haven't got a mask programmed in, I tried a sleepweaver élan last night and it reported 15lpm, which seems quite low. Is the lower venting rate a problem and could it result in more effort being required or actually insufficient flow to supply air and vent co2?
Pressure is set at 8 to 18 and machine is an icon auto.
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Pressure is minimum 8 max 18 on a fisher and paykel con auto, 95% pressure is 9
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I forgot you had the Icon like me. Those leaks are great for either mask. I would not worry.
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